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Poster: Skippy61 Date: Apr 4, 2008 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: a little help?

I posted a request a few days ago about a good show to introduce someone to the Dead and i recieved NO RESPONSES!!!
That has never happened... I am very interested in folks opinions. Hence the posting.

Please help

Peace:Skippy

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Apr 4, 2008 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

I responded with 5-6-81 AUD
http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-05-06.glassberg.vernon.17697.sbeok.shnf

I'll add the 7-31-82 AUD to that
http://www.archive.org/details/gd82-07-31.aud-nakcm700.martin.warner.19017.sbeok.shnf

If you are using the "I'd like to get an e-mail when someone responds" feature then you got no response because that feature has not been working too well lately.



This post was modified by jglynn1.2 on 2008-04-05 01:25:46

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Poster: patourkid Date: Apr 4, 2008 6:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

On a positive note when I just posted I got the regular post successful page instead of the blank screen.

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Poster: Skippy61 Date: Apr 4, 2008 6:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

thanks for the tip, i thought i had offnede somehow!!

LOL

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Apr 4, 2008 7:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

i wrote this post about my first tape of a show and how it was an excellent pick for a newbie back in October. (10/9/84)

http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=156675

As i mention in there the show that jglynn mentioned, 7/31/82 was my third tape and agree that it would also be a great choice.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Apr 4, 2008 5:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

04-29-1971...09-28-1972...07-08-1978...10-10-1980

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Poster: patourkid Date: Apr 4, 2008 6:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

I'll throw a second on the nod to the Palladium show...good stuff. I will also mention the 12-14-71 Hill Aud. That is one of my fav shows, I can't get enough of it no matter how many times I hear it. 10-12-68 is on a WHOLE different level, might even be too much for a beginner,kinda like 5 hits of double fluff......ought to have a warning label....BRAINFRY!!!

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Poster: whirlwind dreamer 65-95 Date: Apr 4, 2008 6:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

try this show for the first timer!!!~~~http://www.archive.org/details/gd75-09-28.sbd.bertha-ashley.22257.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: headgdhead Date: Apr 7, 2008 9:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

Grateful Dead (Skull & Roses) has all the essentials for a newbie. The original recording was excellent. The remastered release is stellar with the added bonus tracks I'm A Hog For You and Buddy Holly's, Oh, Boy!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Grateful-Dead-Skull-Roses/dp/B00007LTIM/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&;s=music&qid=1207584284&sr=1-5

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Apr 4, 2008 5:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

i am sure there are quite a few audience sources that would truly be worthy of what you are asking; for starters, might i suggest the following:

Cleveland Music Hall
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-03-02.nak700.wagner.motb.0058.89119.sbeok.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-03-02.nak700.wagner.miller.90165.sbeok.flac16

lately, i've been really enjoying a couple of shows from Europe '81

Rainbow Theatre
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-03-21.aud.weiskircher.32143.sbefail.shnf

Rainbow Theatre
http://www.archive.org/details/gd81-03-24.aud.weiskircher-vernon.10308.sbeok.shnf

but seriously, i love '81 GD, and could suggest quite a few additional, however, give this '84 a shot, there are quite a few sources for this show, but i've been really enjoying this source:

Niagra Falls Convention Center
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1984-04-17.fob.mccue.ford.79670.sbeok.flac16

if the early stuff is what you are after, well, these two will not disappoint, though 8/6 imho is the better:

Hollywood Palladium
http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-08-05.aud.cotsman.9768.sbeok.shnf

Hollywood Palladium
http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-08-06.aud.bertrando.yerys.129.sbeok.shnf

there truly are so many more to suggest, but i'll let some others suggest a few; cheers

This post was modified by Arbuthnot on 2008-04-05 00:48:11

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Poster: yesss! Date: Apr 4, 2008 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

well, i guess it kind of depends on what music the person normally likes and what aspects of the dead you think that they will appreciate. if they are into old psychedelic rock then play them something from 68 or 69, if they like jazz or fusion then go to 73/74, country 70/71, disco 77/78, etc... but in general i have found that a good recording goes a long way with the uninitiated, so maybe start with a really nice sounding board or an official release. actually these live albums are all pretty accessible and highly enjoyable- reckoning/for the faithful, steppin out with the gd, DP28, DP11, one from the vault. or you can just look at what the most popular shows are on the archive and try one of them. i think 2/26/77 was highlighted for a while and i have found that to be a crowd pleaser in the past.

good luck!

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Apr 4, 2008 6:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

I think that is an excellent approach. I have a friend who wants me to give her a sample of GD too. She likes other classic rock and roll bands like Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Allman Brothers.

I personally don't think she'll like the spacey stuff out there. If I had to choose three concerts, I also think a great sounding concert is probably more important than anything else, all things considered. To this day I still prefer concerts that sound better over a 3/5 sounds but 4/5 or 5/5 show itself. Luckily I was able to download many numerous SBD's before things changed.

I will probably do 5/8/77 (Barton) OR 2/26/77 (Swing) (or maybe both), 8/27/72 (Veneta), and one of the Madison Square Garden shows from Sept. 1990. I'm not sure which one yet, but I have 9/15, 9/19, 9/20 and I've rated them all 5 stars on my iTunes.

That should be a good start! Basically I want her (and all people being introduced to the Dead) to hear key songs including

Playin' In The Band
Truckin'
Estimated Prophet
Eyes Of The World
Help > Slip > Franklin
Scarlet Begonias
Fire On The Mountain
Morning Dew
Not Fade Away > GDTRFB
Sugar Magnolia

I just realized that it's very difficult to put together a list like this. I would have to add another 25 songs. I guess it all depends on how much I can fit on a DVD!

What do you guys think?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 6, 2008 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

Agree with you and Yesss with respect to the eras/sounds aspect...great point.

Of course, I would also note that for acoustic material, I would focus on the 70s shows that can shine, as just another example of era esque material.

I would offer that you might want a suite or two from the early era, but as noted above, in their entirety they might be too much of a good thing...You could compromise and use an hour from Oct Avalon 68 or Fillmore, Sept 70 to get the job done.

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Poster: JamminJerome Date: Apr 4, 2008 7:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

Depends on what they like! 2/26/77 is good all around, as is 10/31/79. 4/29/71 also comes to mind.

Me, personally, I became hooked listening to live/dead. That's what I let people listen to first.

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Apr 6, 2008 7:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: a little help?

gee, um, WORKINGMAN'S DEAD!

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